Everybodys not been invited to the game. Ill live. If you are looking for, What can I do in all of this? You were like, Guess what? Frank: -because both of them really are acting like we dont belong here. I got fired from a paper route because I was doing a really lousy job because I didnt want to throw papers. Make your roots go that way for the water. Frank: Yes, and the adaptive part, but then we came up with something that we thought it was a little bit cooler. Basically, in there, I was saying exactly what youre going to hear us say for seven months now, its like the reason that we have ghosts and vampires and all of this stuff is because they relate to something whether its a large something or maybe even specifically something youre going to hear in each one of these weeks these are specific tropes that actually relate to something with an origin. Yvette: Its quite the conundrum. Foresight really helps us build that resilience in that way. The way that we see the future directly impacts the actions that we take today, so a better world requires better visions. Find the champion and they are going to be in places that you dont expect because you how organizations work. Yvette: Again, if youre looking for support in your scanning practice and youre just developing the skillset, or if youre already an avid scanner and youre just looking for more sources of data and information, were going to provide that to you every month on week two. People think that we dont get along because of our little-. Im still sensitive about that. Were about to kill everybody. Thats what the futures knows that hes doing. Frank: Again, as Yvette said, see you in January. The way [unintelligible 00:07:25]. Our transhumanism, theres all kinds of things that we could talk about today that like good futures. Its something that we think is a liminal space between that strategic foresight where we implement, and that visionary foresight where we dream. Yvette: Yes, they all come from actual experiences. This is how we build these different elements of digital literacy, like media literacy and information literacy and computer literacy and learning skills. That comes from the separation mentality. Frank: You have multiple jobs. It has to be open. Yvette: I think its reframing that consumptive footprint and way that were looking at that. Unless all the voices are included, foresight is about all the voices. Frank: Education, right. The other thing we talked a lot about in this podcast is this idea of information and siloing. Theres a Charles Manson scene. We could create technologies that enhance our connection to the earth and to one another. Yvette: Okay, its got to be quick because were [crosstalk]. Maya Nelson joins the podcast College Matters.Alma Matters to share her experience with undergraduate research at CU Boulder, advice for making the most of You are so philosophically and theoretically off base. Those are almost mystical in a way, and they shifted out of that to more of about collaboration, cooperation, the community, agency, building the future. Well, and Jurassic Park is scary too. Ill get my baseball bat and a leather jacket. When you hear that, you think, oh my gosh, Franken and Yvette have, Yvette: Ive lost it. Let me, yes and it. If Im the regular person, I see screens day in and day out, my customer service is delivered via screens. You think youve figured it out, and you think its just a simple linear path from A to B? If you dont like to be disrupted, then maybe be the one that disrupts. Were using natural foresight to work our way to our wicked opportunity, which is democratized discovery. Speaker 1: The Wicked Opportunities podcast has been brought to you by Kedge a global foresight innovation and strategic design firm serving the worlds most successful organizations. He said that even one year, my mom put the paper bag on her head and she got candy. I think we believe that foresight gives resilience risk management a facelift and that its not about being brittle and building up walls, because ultimately something manages to get in, but rather its about building our immune system, testing possible outcomes. I was focusing on that, but I love that you threw that in as well. Of course, were talking about alien eyes here. Its like, How does the Borg remain individual and yet still be in the collective? There was so much talk about when you got disconnected from the collective you could no longer hear the thoughts of everybody, which was really sad. Yvette: Goes way back to week one with learn, unlearn, relearn, its all connected folks. We have to build this for generations past and generations to come, and we have to include them as part of our environment now. Frank: We have. Frank:Yes, because that line, say goodbye to Frank and Yvette was the exact phrase that the gentleman who ran this particular company used. Again, the idea here is to create tangible manifestations of this future. Frank: I love how you mentioned that sort of a meta-reference, because thats how foresight works. We need to think about how we can expand and shift our view. Tell us about Rosa. I think weve set a really good systemic framework and level and can just do a reminder. Im so super excited. Yvette: Yes, and you need to get our name right out of your mouth. Thats what resilience is about. Yvette: Foresight really understands the DNA of where youve been and uses that going forward. Yvette: What if we reframed our thinking and said in actuality, again the earth has can benefit from us being here-. Yes, weve got to stop treating landscape as a commodity because when we do theres that homogenizing again. Frank: Public lands, right? Obviously, weve got images of the undead plaguing pop culture for decades. Foresight. Frank: Well, the article we actually had for this and one of the things we were looking at, we looked at this article called and its very recent, We need to kick big tech out of the metaverse, awesome. It could depend on the day and what news article youve just read. In the book specifically, she talks about LGBTQ and the trans community and just immigrants community, indigenous communities that have been historically left of the sciences because theyd been largely white and male. A 1998 classic where [crosstalk], Frank: Scooby-Doo always had good zombies, they draw them with the rotting faces but who is that guy, whos really behind the mask? It takes you about five seconds to go and see them all, and youre out. To that we say welcome. Yvette: Well, within the system theyre having to work into. Yvette: Thats the legacy within the DNA that were trying to bring forward in our prompter. Im wondering if you do what do you call it? There is proven and established bias within the medical community against fat and overweight people and people of size. Frank: Thats the end of ever wanting to see the screen again. It was entitled architecture as interface: architecture in the digital world. What? Yvette: Right. Yvette: Yes. Dont judge me. You have to subscribe. Yvette: No, I think this is actually probably really valuable advice for people. Yvette: Whats interesting is we talked at the last podcast about how your territory or how you encompass the in-crowd versus the out crowd, has limitations. nothing else you do other than foresight in an organization that does that. Yvette: Shes like, He kind of looks like Edgar, but not. Actually, well be going dark for November and December, but well be back with the last [unintelligible 00:35:29] of the Wicked Opportunity monsters collections starting in January 2022. We see that and we think of the Borg on Star Trek. Well catch you next time. Frank: Thats awesome. You need to have the courage to be able to say things that other professionals wouldnt say, to step outside the box. Each week well focus on a different facet of the Natural Foresight Framework. Frank: Yes, because if youve really been playing along at home, shouting bingo down the hall, then you know the alien eyes really is all about myth and metaphor. Frank: This is the idea of really avoiding disruption. Frank: Im wondering for our listeners what Candy you give out because I know that in some ways, at least in the past Halloween was largely an American thing, but now its spread a lot and Ive heard that people in Korea and Japan are really into Halloween now. Frank: If youve ever seen this movie. How do we make science more ethical? Yvette: When we look at these Frankenstein films and we look at these films about the lone genius or the mad scientist, theyre really probably speaking in part to our fear of science and this idea that scientists somehow know more than we do. Yvette: I also remember that this punch line involved me saying that you knew about Laura Ingalls as a book because youre a bit older than I am, but lets not go there. Frank: It looks like month seven, our wicked opportunity is that humans can be an awesome species that the planet actually needs and thats why were here. It was pointed out in the article that in South America, I think is the Waorani people actually, theyre so in tune with the tree kingdom that they have names for a tree. Yvette: Theres probably a lot of trends in todays environment that you can use to build this bridge. Join futurists Yvette Montero Salvatico and Frank Spencer I thought Canadians came over here. In the global conversation, rebellion, extinction, largely in Europe, but in the global conversation as well but weve always had. You cant really do good foresight without being a critical thinking systems thinker and at least touching on Maybe you dont even know youre doing this, but youre touching on complexity theory. Stay safe and well see you next time. Thats the way it goes. Yvette: Sometimes the origins of our skits-. Which by the way, hay bale reminds me of the haunted hay bale [laughs]. Yvette: Right. Like you said, we follow the natural foresight framework, discover, explore, map, create. Yvette: I think as part of the year free, we continue to offer our Wicked Opportunities Podcast every week for free. Yvette: Access to food and food deserts all play a role here. Yvette: Okay. What will be some of the myths and metaphors that might transform this wicked problem into a wicked opportunity? You may have seen the journey across from one side to the other differently. Like I said, I think were about in the middle of the bridge. Theres all of these figures of the Creature from the Black Lagoon, and zombies and Dracula and all. Its like, and this cost $250 million and that cost a billion dollars. Okay, lets tell them what our wicked problem is for this month. The author says storytelling matters. Literally, lets think about reframing zombie apocalypse and we can remind you what the definition of zombie apocalypse is, but what if we flip that on its head and instead turn it into the wicked opportunity of the global brain, so brains again. Frank: They dont even have a name for what you do. Thats interesting. We have to be agile, and they even said like, Dont say the word process. Yvette: Its just interesting because ultimately, it speaks to how we respond to other cultures, other ideas. Yvette: I dont understand why the phrase, play along, is being used here. Yvette: Probably not, more screen time for all. You guys need to die off. Its like, were going out. [00:05:30] Yvette: Because of his gift, hes actually excommunicated from the family, and they dont know it, but hes living within the house in solitude away from the rest of the family. Did we talk enough about this idea of the origins of alien invasions? This month its all about alien invasion. As youre going to see in just a minute, Yvette and I are going to get into talking about the fact that thinking alien is really the way that we need to think to thrive as the human species but instead, we created aliens to be afraid of so that we can protect ourselves. Its like, Look, I would respect organized religion a lot more if I didnt feel that it was so siloed and it was really looking more at the whole person and the whole earth and, Im going to just use a phrase here that doesnt apply but, all of Gods creation. Im just using that almost as a metaphor. Yvette: It doesnt have to at the expense, but yes, were getting ahead of ourselves. I think this is a great place to shout out to seeing more veganism come on the scene and people recognizing that our food habits have to change too and that that is super healthy for their diversity. Shes amazing, shes a a retired immunologist and virologist, a professor from John Hopkins university. We have not fixed this because of the cowboy nation that we undergo. That probably means youre doing the right thing. You may have never seen this before but for me, one of the scariest movies. If you could travel back in time and kidnap is a strong term, but if you could encourage Laura to join you and you brought her to Disney World, she would probably faint, or to Super Target, she wouldnt know what to make of it, but if you took her, this star of Little House on the Prairie, to any fifth-grade classroom, she would know right away where she was because, in many regards, that classroom hasnt changed from the one-room schoolhouse made famous in that TV show. He has a great book called Evolutions Arrow. Now that weve established our wicked problem, homogenocene extinction, lets talk about some of the systems, structures, and actors that undergird that problem. It should run in the background like the operating system helping fuel our decision-making in every facet of our lives. This is where that idea of the voodoo culture in Haiti and turning somebody into a zombie whos not dead, but has been zombified. Let me go over that prompter. If nothing else its a mouthful. I had a little bit of knowledge, enough to be dangerous. I was telling our friends at Design Features Institute this past week the phrase creative complexity. I cant wait until next weeks podcast. World War Z the Brad Pitt movie, theyre crawling over one another real fast to get over the wall and theyre faster than a regular human. Thanks, everyone. Yvette: Thats not true. Yvette: I am quite certain that they dealt with metaphorical aliens a lot if I had to guess. The way that were fetishizing technology, those incredible space billionaires or what you think about the term citizen science. The last collection took you through the seven shifts, value shifts that we had written about previously. When Frank started to regale people with the stories of little children, ghost children, playing with a ball and phantom phones ringing in the hallway that werent connected, everybodys eyes were on him. I wanted to tell you just a brief story. Yvette: Right. Remember that? We just have to change the way we see urbanization. Frank:Not even anything that we said right based on[unintelligible 00:11:11]. Frank: Yes. Within a few weeks, the gamers had progressed to a point that, again, a decade-long scientific research effort had not produced these types of results. Weve already talked in plenty of podcasts before now about how that also impacts cultural race relations, et cetera. Theyre great. Frank: It doesnt matter because the thing that youre not hurting is the thing that you really care about the most, which speaks volumes about quantitative or qualitative, that we definitely care about the qualitative piece more. I am also not Michael Landon. Yvette: In the discover week. Lets start with our resilient response. Eta? You all know Max Brooks, famous book from I believe it was 2006 a World War Z, which they made into a movie and I think they were supposed to make a second movie. You definitely need to think about that outside voice and of course, theyve called you because they want an outside voice or youve contacted them or youre having a relationship because of that. Yvette: Month one was all about the zombie apocalypse, AKA the attention economy, and we reframed that as the global brain. If you didnt get anything else out of what we said for the past five minutes or so, take away that we dont need to know, we need to perceive. Yvette: You are wrong because we made the mistake of saying on our customs forums, that we were there to do business with a client. There was also the time that we almost got sent back from Canada. Yvette: Which is again is really important. You talked about circular economy, but also the purpose economy and then weve talked over the last few minutes, quite a bit about social justice reform and initiatives. If really want to solve climate change its not just about not using straws at Starbucks. Thats the interesting part, is that your brain recognizes your face, even when you consciously dont. Im listening to what shes saying, but shes going to forget this part or this part. Just as we all do, but no. Frank: Its actually the more powerful that you said the drivers seat because I think our good friend Nora Bateson would argue too. What is the mythology? Frank: In this explore week, different from the first collection because were following some different tools, different ways of looking at things. Thank you for being my therapist. I am what they call a night owl. Frank: Yes, except for the fact that and I know youve already gently touched on this, but our learn, unlearn. In fact, that theres examples from nature that showcase that this is possible. For those who arent really super familiar with these terms, solarpunk, hopepunk these are new terms meant to either add to or replace this old idea of cyberpunk. Its one of the greatest discoveries of humankind, go get your vaccination. [laughs]. How do we move all of our valuations or evaluations from strictly quantitative to also considering the qualitative? Frank: So many good things. Yvette Montero Salvatico: Your favorite month of the year. Yvette: Thats really interesting. I appreciate it. We have to get rid of the algorithms. They might work for a public company like a Disney or maybe a smaller organization. [chuckles] Thats really interesting because I think that would be most peoples responses. How can we explore solarpunk or hopepunk futures around the idea of the global brain? Frank: This is the question where we ask what social structures would be changed, how will they change. Our first week were super excited. Thats the first thing we touched on where youre going to see our service here in just a minute is similar, but the next step up I think. It has to be plurinational, so to speak. Yvette: The privatization of space -I know thats not the point of this topic- is really about a land grab in terms of these business leaders and business entrepreneurs wanting to get those lucrative, government contracts because at the end, were not going to have a space program funded solely by billionaires. Maya Nelson joins the podcast College Matters.Alma Matters to share her experience with undergraduate research at CU Boulder, advice for making the most of your college experience and a few stories about exploring Paris with her research team.. For more about Maya's research, check out "New magic beans produce ingredients for Those are the trends and values from that article. Frank: Thats right. Weve got to get rid of the systems that stop telling us or the systems that are telling us you cant do it, or it cant be done, or it cant be discover, well never get there, well never go to the moon, man will never talk over a wire. Yvette: Remember the whole little Lord Fauntleroy moment [lsughs] that you had where our families went out to dinner together early on and you were dressed to the nines and I was shocked and you were quick to tell me that you actually prefer to dress to the nines. The robots are the only thing that will make it. Well, remember last week, and I think you were the one that were saying that science needs a hype man, and thats where these influencers are. What can we learn? I cant wait to be with these people and work with some of these people. Weve had a great month and were excited about where we go next. In the create phase or week of the podcast, we try to add even more tangibility to some of this but even so were going to be talking about some concepts here that hopefully help you move forward with your conversation. You think, Oh, gosh, millions of people getting on the internet have all these opinions. I actually dont think thats whats going on. What values and aspects of our society, you could change it with yourself or with your organization, we will need to lean on in order to maintain our baseline or official future as it relates to this issue? Frank: Oh, thats terrible. Frank: It is telling you too because again, and we see, the aliens either look like us or they embody us. We might have joked that she wouldnt last long in China. Its a realization that we have to think about the fact that were interconnected as a species and these crises are going to be interconnected crises that require us to utilize foresight and foresight, a big part of it is looking at the world with alien eyes. Similarly, when I see a field like design say, this is ours, its like, sure, great. I love this idea of those generations speaking back to us and thats really understanding. Frank: Which reminds me, by the way, that when we first met many moons ago, there was a great story about Little House on the Prairie. As youve heard us talking on the podcast before that theres a way to look at this, rather than just designing for a good way to go out, what we design for a good way back in? We use Foresight, specifically, Natural Foresight in our podcast. Frank: Unless youre probably deep into climate studies and youre actually somebody who studies climate change for a living. On our podcast we will explore killer cases and the most puzzling phenomena. Love all of you, and take care until we see you next week. Yvette: This idea of like, We have to be fast, we have to be fast. This is where we can slide into it now that weve done the learn part. Weve barely scratched the surface on what we told you here. Yvette: All right, lets talk about zombies in media. We love doing scenario development project. Last week of collection number one, were excited about going to collection number two, but before we get there, we have an exciting podcast. Yvette: We wanted to acknowledge the origins of the word because I do think, obviously, it relates. Its hope. I know the Candy is safe. Lets remember that our organizations are made up of individuals, made up of humans, made up of people and all it will take is for all of us to say, This is not okay. Its a great place to find that support. Frank: You were like, Oh, thats so cute. That whole town didnt really have a foresight culture until Mirabel changed things and she was a great receptor for foresight. Were leveraging the aliens to help us view life differently. Frank: Thats right. This is the current manifestation of the Zambie apocalypse. To learn more visit www.kedgefutures.com. In this one, were doing environmental scanning. Frank: I saw a hilarious skit about the Trojan horse on TikTok not long ago. Yvette: Yes, we know the net right now is not an open, equitable space. Again, theres great examples, Jack Andraka who made that huge discovery as a high-schooler and there are examples of this. Frank: Nervous is extreme. Yvette: Can you get them really excited about thermodynamics in 20 minutes? I can relate. We talked about not in my backyard. It can be used for evil. Frank: Theres a clip going around of two news commentators or a guest and a news commentator talking about, in the military to train their dogs, they keep them hungry and that we should, the only way to get people to go back to work is stop giving them a social safety net, make them hungry. She literally called advertisement, Skip Ad. Sorry to drag that on. Either way technologies mystique must be challenged. Frank: You just went to the back seat and got the rice and beans on the cooker? We want to really make sure that we focus on this idea of if humans are parasitic or weve acted parasitically in many ways, then can we have zeitgeists as the opposite of that and ourselves as being like we are a species thats here for a reason in time. Yvette: It doesnt feel like an app. Frank: You hesitated to turn on the recording because I was sipping my hot tea. Yvette: Lets talk about this evolution of the wicked opportunity. 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